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Because of this article, I searched and found a Traditional Latin Mass. With the advise on the, I was armed with the courage to face something “foreign” to me and, also armed with the resources to enter the most meaningful liturgy I’ve ever experienced. Thank you, Sam and Co.
Gregory Horwitz
God bless you for your kind generosity in sharing this invaluable advice!! Today I will be going to my first Latin Mass and you have contributed so greatly to this journey I will begin! I will come back once and again to your wonderful post. 🙂
There are prayers that the priest says (In the Novus Ordo) that the people are not suppose to say. I imagine this is similar in the Triditine Mass. Which would mean that no, you cannot pray every single prayer that the priest prays. Awesome blog post though.
…but you can pray along. just not out loud!
I just watched the two Latin Masses you have posted here, the first, narrated by Venerable Fulton Sheen, and the re-enactment of the Mass in medieval times and I was nearly brought to tears at the beauty of it all! Thank you for this post as I journey back to the Latin Mass.
I love this .
Deep down, we crave an experience that is disorienting in its wonder, churches would sometime have this inscription above the door: “Terribilis est locus iste: hic domus Dei est, et porta caeli:” Translated, it means, “This place is terrible, it is the house of God, and the gate of heaven.” In other words, the house of God should be awe inspiring. It should feel out of the ordinary, a place set apart for the worship of the Almighty.
I hope this comments doesn’t offend anyone. Can someone please explain why Latin Mass/traditionalist priests ALWAYS seem to wear the Roman or fiddle back chasuble when saying Mass, instead of the Gothic? The Gothic is the older style. In the 1500’s, chasubles worn by prelates became so heavy with ornamentation that they couldn’t move easily in them. The “solution” was to have the sides cut away, a practice that St. Charles Borromeo decried, as did others. Since everyone loves to be “in style”, ordinary priests had theirs cut down too of course, with an added benefit: now, that which had previously been hidden beneath the ample Gothic chasuble – could be made showy, dripping with lace and other gee gaws. Clearly, the Roman or fiddle back is an INNOVATION, a departure FROM tradition. For goodness sakes fathers, set this baroque “sandwich board” thing aside – and go back to the stately and dignified Gothic!
I agree with everything said here except for one point: Attend the High Mass. The Low Mass is disappointing compared to the splendor of the High Mass. The High Mass was supposed to be normative. The Low Mass was supposed to be the exception to the rule, it was tolerated when it was not possible to have the deacon, subdeacon, acolytes, schola cantorum, etc. present. Unfortunately, in practice, the reverse turned out to be the case prior to V2. Maybe it’s because of my love for the music, but please give the High Mass a try. You won’t be sorry.
The Low Mass–which actually is a form of “private” Mass between priest and server–eventually become THE predominant form of the public Mass. You can read the complex history of how this came about in Josef Jungmann’s “The Mass of the Roman Rite…” http://www.ccwatershed.org/blog/2014/jan/25/josef-jungmann-study-roman-rite-mass-pdf/
The original goal of the 20th century Liturgical Movement was not to change the Mass–but to change how it was celebrated, e.g. return the primacy of the sung Mass and have the congregation join in the simple responses. However, efforts to make such changes were met with great resistance. So those who gained the upper hand after Vatican II felt the only way to change this was to reinvent the Mass itself.
Unfortunately, the 1969 Mass is inspired, in part, after the 1950s Low “dialogue” Mass, in which the congregation recited parts that never belonged to the congregation, such as the “prayers at the foot of the altar”. This explains the unprecedented “penitential rite” at the beginning of the 1969 Order of Mass. It also explains the fact that most priests never sing their parts in the 1969 form of Mass, except perhaps “Through Him, With Him…”.
Today I attend a parish which has a Solemn High Latin Mass every Sunday–even during the summer ( http://www.stmarynorwalk.net/ ) . The congregation sings “their” parts with gusto and the schola sings the propers, motets and usually a polyphonic Ordinary. I once mentioned to my pastor that we never could have achieved this–the original goal of the Liturgical Movement–if we had not first lost everything, so that a new generation could rediscover what should have been.
He concurred.
@ Jeanne Hall: Fortunately for you, you’ll ALWAYS be able to attend the 1969 Novus Ordo aka Ordinary Form Mass. Unlike the traditional Roman Rite, with its 1,500+ year history and ‘organic development’ over the centuries, it’s quite unlikely that a future pope or Vatican “committee” will do everything possible, include the use of massive deceit, to suppress and wipe out every trace of the 1969 committee-fabricated, theologically-diluted Mass. Everyone seems quite content with our rapidly-diminishing parishes, dying religious orders, total ignorance of–and lack of belief in–basic Church teachings by most Catholics and the fact that 80% of our youth leave the Church by age 18. So you can relax: no need for that all-caps “digital shouting”. Your 1969 Mass is safe and universally available–well, as long as there still is a priest available.
HATE IT! I’LL NEVER LEARN TO LIKE TRIDENTINE LATIN MASS! GET YOURSELVES EDUCATED PROPERLY IN THE ORDO MISSAE! TRIDENTINISM IS DEAD, DEAD, DEAD, DEAD AND DEAD!!!
That was a great History recap. Thanks.
That is actually a whitewashed and deceptive explanation. Everyone who studies this seriously knows the Annibale Bugnini and his cohorts were trying to de-sacralize the Mass for their own Masonic purposes. It is foolish to go on denying the awful truth of the attack on the Church. Vatican II is chock full of heresy and the “new Mass” is a hybrid of the Mass of Luther and a Masonic ritual. Whether or not it is “valid” is another matter. It should be gotten rid of immediately and the heresies of Vatican II renounced by the Church hierarchy.
@STEPHEN You are quite correct: “the past was not a liturgical Camelot”. The move to reform of the Roman Rite, aka the Liturgical Movement, really began with the 19th century Cecilian Movement in Germany. You can read about that here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecilian_Movement
The next phase of the Liturgical Movement was Pius X’s 1903 motu proprio ‘Tra le sollecitudini’, which formally recognized the work of the Solesme monks to restore Gregorian Chant and called for the congregation to join in on the simple responses at Mass.
However, these efforts bore very little fruit in most parishes. This was largely due to the fact that priests in seminary were trained to treat the Mass as a string of obligatory texts and rituals to be ‘gotten through’, in order to ‘confect the Eucharist’. There was very little sense of liturgy as prayer or ‘ars celebrandi’. I recall as a young boy (when the traditional Latin Mass was the ONLY Mass) the only form of Mass most Catholics knew was the Low Mass, which essentially is a “private” Mass between priest and server with no music; the congregation made no responses whatsoever—and if someone dared to do so, people stared as if the individual was being disruptive.
So a different approach that gained some popularity in the 1950s, particularly in Catholic schools and universities, was the “dialogue Mass”. This was a Low Mass in which the congregation made ALL of the responses—even responses that NEVER were intended to be recited by the congregation, e.g. during the “Prayers at the Foot of the Altar”.
So the 1969 New Order of Mass [“Novus Ordo missae”] ultimately was modelled after this Low “dialogue” Mass—along with innumerable innovations, many “inspired by” Eastern liturgical traditions, which the reformers (led by Msgr. Annibale Bugnini) considered more “authentic” than our own tradition. One of the more unfortunate innovations, inspired by the 1950s practice, is the “Penitential Rite” at the beginning of Mass: utterly unprecedented—despite Vatican II’s warnings against “innovations”. I blame this bizarre, innovative way of beginning Mass—greeting; ‘introduce’ the day’s ‘theme’ or whatever; segue into penitential rite—as laying the groundwork for the casual, non-liturgical approach to all that follows. The Low Mass influence also survives in the fact the most priests rarely if ever sing their own parts of the Mass. And the utter failure of the original Liturgical Movement to change the WAY in which Mass was celebrated, led to the mistaken conclusion that the only way to fix this was to discard the whole thing and invent a completely new Order of Mass.
When I was c. 10 years old and “the changes” (as we called them) began, I thought it rather strange that the first things they insisted on doing in the vernacular were the parts that everyone actually understood: Kyrie eleison; Sanctus, Sanctus; Agnus Dei, etc. Meanwhile, the priest’s parts often continued to be recited in Latin into the late 1960s. I thought it backwards then—and still think so today.
However, the most onerous part of all this was the absolute insistence that all must conform to the “new ways” and anyone who expressed a fondness for Latin, chant, communion on the tongue, etc. was publicly scorned. I still occasionally encounter older priests from those days who raise their eyebrows and roll their eyes if I mention that I attend the traditional Latin Mass/TLM.
Yet, after all is said and done, I feel it was necessary that we lose absolutely everything, in order for the original goals of the Liturgical Movement to be reborn and slowly realized. And, little by little, that is precisely what is happening. My own parish (St. Mary’s, Norwalk, Connecticut) is a remarkable example of this. Younger Catholics were not part of the 1960s ‘liturgical wars’, so share none of the hang-ups of Boomer-generation priests and laity. Perhaps this explains why a large percentage of those who attend the Solemn High TLM at my own parish are young adults; I’ve read that this actually is rather typical of congregations attending the TLM.
Yikes. Sorry for the typos. Didn’t catch those before I posted. Looks like I’d better work on mastering english before I jump into Latin!
Pax Cristi!
I confess Im often frustrated by things I sometimes see at mass. The music itself can drive me crazy. Everything is so “sing songy” like it was written for second graders. Unfortunately, the text of many songs can often be shallow or even errant in their theology as well. I’m fortunate enough to be in a diocese where liturgical abuses don’t seem to get too much worse than that, though I know that there are some pretty terrible ones out there. A sad state of affairs indeed.
All that said, when the Novus Ordo is done as it aught to be, it can be beautiful and respectful and devout. The way I see it, there must have been some reason for the reforms intended with the Novus Ordo. I confess I’m not knowledge of what they were, but I think I saw a glimmer during one of the two traditional liturgies I have attended.
While the (stunningly beautiful) liturgy I was being sung, I was momentarily distracted noticing an older woman praying the rosary. She wasn’t just holding rosary beads ( something I often do myself ) she was really praying the rosary while mass was going on. I thought, “Why is she doing that during the prayer of all prayers?” I concluded that it was because she didn’t have any idea of what was being said in the liturgy so she was praying prayers she understood. It gave me pause and I wondered how common that phenomenon may have been among her generation.
This is a slight thing compared to the abuses of the present, but it made me realize that the past was not a liturgical Camelot either. As a result I’m reticent about discussions encouraging the traditional mass without some factual look at what reforms were called for and why. This is something I have not done myself, but I’m hedging my bets and trusting the wisdom of the Church that there were indeed some good ones.
I remember the first time I attended a Latin Mass, and although I knew the general order of Mass was generally the same as the Novus Ordo Mass, I was lost!! I had a missal with me, and I tried to follow along, but I was so confused I could not understand where the heck the priest was in terms of the text I was following. I was surprised I could not follow along, because I knew the structure was basically the same: Opening prayers, Penitential Rite (Confiteor), Kyrie, First Reading (Epistle), Gospel (Gospel), Creed, Offertory, Eucharistic Prayer (Canon), Consecration, Our Father, Holy Communion, Blessing. This I knew. But it seemed like I couldn’t find the parts that matched.
Anyway, it did take about five or six Masses to begin to see where the priest was compared to the text. You are so right that what it takes is having a missal or provided order of Mass, and just try to follow the main parts.
Now I’m an old hand :-), and love both forms of the Mass very much. Thanks for the helps.
Excellent post. My only thought is that for some people a Low Mass is actually less accessible than a Sung Mass or High Mass, because there’s much less for people to actively do than at a Novus Ordo. At a Sung Mass you can sing along with the choir and come away feeling as if you’ve “joined in” just as much as at a Novus Ordo, albeit in a slightly different way, whereas a Low Mass can make you feel a nit left out.
My wife came with me to Low Masses a few times and started to get the hang of them, but it was her first Sung Mass which really flicked the switch for her.
We alternate between NO and TLM (kids serve at both).
What I love about TLM? The priest orientation, the music (chant), the big families (we are still the largest, but feel normal there), and the people are genuine believers.
What I dislike about TLM? The lacking Scripture (poor translation, no ABC liturgical cycle, sparse readings), Latin.
On balance, I prefer the NO. I think the NO would be perfect if it had more chant and the priest were to orient himself properly.
I used to go Eastern Divine Liturgy as well, and liked that the least, but it’s still pretty good (priest orientation and English are both good, but again poor Scripture).
I find it a little strange that the article recommends going to a Low Mass first. I’ve been told that the people coming from the OF will have an easier time going to a High Mass first because the congregation can get into the signing long with the choir while having a mass with no interaction like what we have in the OF with the priest would disorient people a lot more.
Still a good article
I agree and had the same reaction to that one point. We (as new converts) went to our church’s low mass first, for a month or so, until someone told us the high mass would be more accessible (easier to follow what is happening, as well as the beauty of the singing). We love the high mass!
The high Mass (actually, the Solemn High Mass with deacon & subdeadon) is THE original form of the Roman Rite. The low Mass developed due, in part, to abuse of the stipend system and gradual dominance of private Masses. So the low Mass is really something of a historical aberration, although it was the ONLY form of Mass most Catholics knew before Vatican II. There is no counterpart to the low Mass in any of the ancient Eastern liturgical traditions. See my June 29 comment beginning with “@ STEPHEN…”
Sometimes you find articles that feel like they were written just for you. This is one of those. I’ve been attending Latin Mass for a few weeks and just taking it in. Now i’m ready to learn more about it. Thank you so much for all of these resources.
Sam
Thanks so much will share this with friends and family who don’t understand our conversion into Catholicism four years ago let alone attending the Latin Mass every Sunday and Holy day of obligation
We find the reverence so compelling and after the Protestant mega churches with guitar playing and rock bands etc we weren’t converting for What we experienced in the no us ordo services as we found them too similar to the Protestant services in tone with the difference being the Eucharist of course
We pray the novus ordo services become more reverent over the coming generations as the church recovers from the far left pendulum swing hopefully to a healthy balance.
I compare it to the difference between Bach and the Beatles at least this is how we experience it
Seems God deserves Bach?
As recent converts from Protestantism, we had the same reaction to the NO services at nearby churches we visited: too Protestant-y. What a shame that the beauty of the Tridentine mass was gutted. Fortunately there is an FSSP parish within driving distance. We love our Latin Mass parish!
[I posted the following on the “Latin Mass” group page of the exclusively-Catholic social network “Awestruck”:]
“With all that page turning and confusing activities taking place at the altar, how am I supposed to pray and participate at a Latin Mass?”
First, it is important to realize that most of the prayers of the traditional Latin Mass NEVER were intended to be followed by the congregation. For example, the Mass begins with the “Prayers at the Foot of the Altar”. This is the personal preparation and declaration of unworthiness by the priest and servers; they are NOT prayers of the congregation. So here you can quietly read along—or recite your own prayers to prepare yourself for Mass. This also is true of the lengthy but very beautiful Offertory prayers which the priest silently recites. You can silently read these prayers yourself—or compose your own meditation on the great mystery that is about to take place.
According to very ancient practice, the Canon (“Eucharistic Prayer I” in the modern Mass) is recited silently to emphasize the awesome mystery in which Christ’s once-and-for-all sacrifice on the cross becomes present (not “repeated”) upon the altar. This corresponds to practices in most of the ancient Eastern liturgies, e.g. closing the doors of the iconostasis at a Byzantine Divine Liturgy or drawing the curtain closed and removal of priest’s shoes during the Armenian Batarak. Because the traditional Latin Mass has only one Eucharistic Prayer—the Roman Canon—after a few weeks of reading along, you will have the prayer memorized and no longer will need to read along. The priest’s gestures throughout the Canon reveal which part of the prayer he is reciting.
At a High Mass, the Propers sung by the choir (Introit, Chants between Epistle and Gospel, Offertory, Communion) are the personal prayers of the choir members. So again, you can choose to follow the texts which the choir sings—or you can pray your own meditation at these times. In fact, the Introit, Offertory and Communion chants always belonged to the choir alone. Singing congregational hymns at these times is a “modern” innovation, with the exception of some countries which long had the custom of singing vernacular hymns at Low Mass.
Particularly at a High or Solemn High Mass, the chanting of the Epistle and Gospel is not meant to be a “Bible instruction”. Rather, it primarily is meant to proclaim and symbolize that the Word became incarnate and that the entire history of salvation has been revealed to us in God’s holy Word. This is why it often was the custom for the sermon to have virtually nothing to do with the day’s Scripture but instead might be an instruction on a particular aspect of the Catholic faith. This often is the practice today at my own parish, as the priests try to address current issues that Catholics face.
This also is a significant contrast to the modern Mass which is much more “didactic” and much less “liturgical” in the sense that “liturgy” was understood for nearly 2,000 years–and still is understood by all Eastern Churches.
It’s also important to note that bilingual hand missals for the congregation did not exist until the 20th century. Until the 1960s it always was understood that the Mass was offered BY the priest FOR the people.
So if you are attending the traditional Latin Mass [TLM] for the first time, pretend that you have been transported back in time to a pre-20th century era—and simply let yourself be drawn into the quiet, awesome mystery that is unfolding before you.
When I was a young boy and the Latin Mass was the ONLY Mass, we were taught to “prepare” for Mass ahead of time by reading and meditating upon the Propers, including the Epistle and Gospel. By doing this, it was not necessary to follow the text during Mass—because I already knew what was being read or sung.
I still do this today and I highly recommend this practice.
[originally posted here: https://awestruck.tv/groups/latin-mass/
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Our family will attend our very first Latin Rite mass on Sunday so this article is so perfectly timed! I love what you said about mass not being about me and my entertainment. It’s so easy to slip into that thought pattern when I forget the extreme sacredness of what’s happening in front of me. I think we all need a good spiritual shake-up from time to time to make us more attentive. I’m looking forward to holy disorientation.
Very nice article. But I think the more accurate translation of “terribilis” is ‘fearsome’ or ‘awesome’. God Bless!
Thank you, Sam! Your writing reminds me of the beauty and power of The Rite. Latin is clearly not a ‘dead’ language as some modern cultures may understand it. To me, celebrating The Mass in Latin opens a portal in the hearts of us all, and I gladly welcome the disorientation and mystery that “surpasses all understanding”.
Pax Christi
Sam another great post. All good thoughts and ideas. I use the 1962 Missal by Father Lasance. It has many great prayers and describes the Mass in detail
You make it harder than it is. We have new people at our Tridentine Mass regularly and staying with us using just the Latin-English Sunday Missals that are put in the pews. As children years ago we each bought Our Sunday Missal for $1 and learned to follow the Mass and become altar boys.
Sam, any ideas about how to get a TLM in one’s area? I’ve reached out to the diocese a few times and people at the local parishes but have had no luck. My husband and I have prayed for it and the closest one is still an hour and a half away. Thanks.
Sorry is is the FSSP .
While yes you could petition the FSSP, I don’t think that would be the best course of action. One cannot serve two masters. We have a FSSP church about a 5-10 minute drive from us but we do not attend as they offer both the Novus Ordo and the Tridentine. As any good Catholic should know, these are two very distinctly different Masses (it is not simply a matter of language). Instead, we attend a SSPX church which is 25 minutes away and only offers the Tridentine.
You can try unavoce.org they are an organization that promotes the TLM and they can help you with this. Also you can contact the FFSP ( Fraternity of St Peter and St Paul ) at fssp.org and through there contact the North American Superior General Father Saguto to help you .
I’ve written to FSSP about this in the past. They replied that the bishop needs to invite them. So you need to start with getting enough people to petition your bishop.
Well done Sam!
Thanks so much for this article. We have a Latin parish in our diocese now but it is intimidating. And for confession the priests seem kinda harsh compared to what I’m accustomed to.
Re: the old missals, I hear about the 1962 edition, is there a certain edition to look for if I find an older missal?
Pre-1962 missals for the most part will differ only in very slight details, e.g. they’ll have the “congregation’s” Confiteor before Communion and a few feasts will be different. A pre-1950s missal will have significant differences in the Holy Week Triduum. Otherwise we’re dealing with a tradition that changed minimally after 1570 and only in rather small increments during the centuries preceding that.
I love the Latin Mass as I’m a “cradle” (1939) Catholic who was brought up attending the Latin Mass. As with some of my 5 brothers, we served as Altar Boys and needed to study the Mass responses (Latin) and be tested by the Pastor before being allowed to served, I still have a St. Joseph Daily Missal that my girlfriend (now wife) gave me in 1957.
Thank you for this post. The Latin Mass can be so intimidating for newcomers, but these tips are so helpful and practical. I’m new to your blog…really enjoying all your posts. 🙂